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OPML Reading/Listening/Viewing ‘Lists’ and ‘Trees’ = ‘Treedia’

OPML webDave on Scripting News and Mike over on Techcrunch post their views of OPML used for ‘reading lists’.

This is an important discussion and one close my heart. I commented over on Dave’s (wordpress) blog , but I thought I’d add to it over here:

Re: OPML lists and ‘trees’ – etc expect some along these lines soon:

The system developed behind podcast.com enables just that, it’s just that naturally with podcast.com we are only interested in feeds with audio or video enclosures.

So, podcast.com is a ‘client’ of this larger system which will be able to support all types of ‘types’ – all supporting OPML inclusion.

I don’t think you should call them ‘lists’ – I think ‘trees’ is more descriptive. ‘Reading trees’. People can either ‘climb’ up then to find the ‘fruit’ (content) they want, or they could wait for the most popular to drop into their lap. Also through looking through ‘leaves’ (tags) they can be sure of following the right branches, as they ‘climb’ up the tree, deep and deeper into the directory/tree. (’directree’? ;) )

OPML is the tree
FEEDS are the vines
TAGS are the leaves
ITEMS/ENCLOSURES are the fruit.

The coolest thing about OPML inclusion, is you could think of it like climbing up a tree, going along a branch, and then ‘zap’, you’re in another tree. Like magic. Painless. Rewarding. ;)

Telepordata?

Semantics. Taxonomy. Folksonomy.

Now that’s what I call a ’social media network’ ;)

I hope to be able to let some users in to try out the system in the next 4 weeks.

Then people could create something like : http://my.podcast.com/kosso , which is my ‘listening tree’/ podcast folders/ ‘tree of sound’

One reason why I think there are more OPML ‘lists’ than ‘trees’ out there is that there are too few tools out there to effectively manage an OPML file. Your apps have been the best to date (once we got the rss attributes sorted)

I mean managing OPML folders/nodes effectively, over import/export of ‘flat’ lists. So many systems eith dont ‘do’ folders or destroy them on import/export.

Also, I think we really need to evangelise the concept of ‘OPML subscription’ .
OPML files are so often used as static files to import/export bunches of feeds. It is indeed great for backup in that sense. But I believe that ‘OPML Subscription CONNECTS’ all these trees/branches out there. When one branch changes on one tree – if there is an ‘inclusion’ (think of it like a shortcut/symbolic link to a folder) then the other will be able to reflect that if one was to climb that branch.

The trees are ALIVE! So subscribe to them! Watch them grow ;) Feed them, prune them and ‘graft’ ‘cuttings’ to their branches.

We like to call it ‘treedia‘ 🙂

Clearly for this to work, we also need well defined standards to make sure the data out there is well-formed – or we’re screwed ;) but let’s not make the same mistake the web browsers did, by just displaying html if it was broken or not.

I feel like doing another podcast ;)

KozCast2 : Koz Farina in Second Life

Wow! Can you believe it!! Two in one day!

DOWNLOAD PODCAST MP3 HERE

This one is more focussed on my Second Life. Still a bit of a ramble (just the way I like it) – tangential thoughts and ideas. No outline. Podcasting by the seat of my (flexi) pants! Woo!

I made the intro music here, using sounds that the UI makes, along with some beats and stuff I threw in there 😉 Hope you like it!

KozCast1 : Introramble

Just trying the mp3 button in here to see if this works. If it does, hey I’m podcasting again! Hurrah!

DOWNLOAD PODCAST MP3 HERE

Wa hey!! I’m alive!

The podcast will not show up in the enclosure here, so use this feed link to subscribe

Just a welcome back from me really. A bit of a ramble on about what I have been up to with no format or preparation at all. But better than not doing one at all though, eh? In fact – don’t answer that 😉 More to come! Podcasting by the seat of my pants!!

The Rewinds

Download “Ghostriders” (mp3)
from “The Rewinds”
by The Rewinds
Livewire Recordings

More On This Album

Yes Yes To You
Download “Left At the Party” (mp3)
from “Yes Yes To You”
by The Affair
Absolutely Kosher

More On This Album
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OK. Now I can see how this mp3 player works here, I think I should be able to hook it up to my mobile publishing system. The things is – does it show up in m y rss feed as an enclosure? Hmm. 😉

Answer: no.

‘Codecasting’

Over on Scripting News, Dave Winer has been talking about the concept of ‘codecasting’ whereby instead of audio or video being sent via an RSS enclosure, a software update for the receiving app could be downloaded and installed.

This is very much like the way that all Dave’s Frontier-based applications have updated for some time, I believe.

I have been suggesting alternate uses for the RSS enclosure for some time myself. But also leveraging the very nature and characteristics of OPML and RSS too.

I think that the distributed media network model provided by an approach of ‘OPML plus RSS to the Power of Users’ – as in development at podcast.com ) could also power a software documentation system. I have also suggested this could also power the perfect forum software, but more on that in another post)

Imagine a directory where all the top level folders were software vendors. The next level would be software languages and applications.

Then the next level, drilling into the folder (via OPML inclusion) would be the language/software API itself. A list of each method/verb etc. These could even be categorised prior to this list, depending on the software it is documenting.

Each method/verb link in this OPML list would link to an RSS feed. IE: Every function available has its own RSS feed. The title of the feed is the name of the verb, the description is the description of the function being documented, with an example.

Then every RSS feed item below it is actually the user/developer generated content – the cool snippets of code – the wisdom – the experience : the BEST bits. 🙂 Look at PHP.net and see that often the most useful information on each function page is actually the list of submitted comments below the official instructions. Also see Macromedia/Adobe’s LiveDocs. Most APIs have a tree like structure which OPML lends itself to building very easily.

Touching briefly on the concept that OPML alone could power forum applications, then the depth of communication and knowledge available for future groks is incredible.

And the best thing being is that all this would be ‘WELL-FORMED’ data. It could document almost any software language ever made.

ps: I am suggesting all this to the owners of software.com – for like podcast.com, I believe that generic domains should do what they ‘have a duty to do‘. Anything else, and they are merely squatters trying to make a fast buck. (imho)

Interactive iPhone display

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eDtmnLNOEs]

This is a very cool floor installation to advertise the iPhone. See how each wipe gets created by shadows falling over the display. I saw a few interesting installations at 3GSM – but no iPhones at all. This would have been a great way for them to have put the iPhone at 3GSM. People would be falling over themselves 😉

The Samsung ‘Feed Phone’

I have to say – that post about the RSS-buttoned phone below is now officially the most popular post on my WordPress blog EVER. Previously, it was a post about Saddam being hanged.

So it’s official – RSS is more popular than Saddam! ) Hurrah!

Also, I think it’s funny when people say ‘I cant confirm this’, or ‘this could be a fake’ – I promise you this is not a fake.

I think this was one of the most important things I saw at 3GSM. This was also not the only phone I saw which had a an RSS application – but it was the only one with a dedicated button.

And no – I didn’t see any ‘My Atom’ apps. Or buttons with ‘Atom’ on it.

The only trouble I did see though, was a slight lack of knowledge about what to do with enclosures. And representing podcast.com, I have offered our assistance ;)

Samsung WiBro with RSS button!


This WiMAX enabled device from Samsung has an app called ‘My Feeds’ in it, which reads your RSS feed subscriptions. Also supports OPML import/export. Not podcasts yet though. But a great big RSS button! 🙂
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UPDATE: I think it’s hilarious that some people question the authenticity of this image. I really have better things to do than to PShop phones 😉

There’s a better photo on the post above with the rest of the original photos of it, with shots of the application it kicks off.

UPDATE: Peter Rojas from Engadget has picked up on this, as has Dave on Scripting News, who has rather less to say apart from making cheeky graphics with punctuation ;p (_!_)

UPDATE2: Peter Rojas has confirmed the model as the SPH-M8110

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